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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 11:52 am

Paul, 60, and Rachel Chandler, 56, from Kent, were seized from their yacht off the Seychelles in October 2009 and have just been released after 1/4 of a million was paid by their family for their release.

Our government refused to help out, said that paying would just condone the behaviour, I think I agree there, but would you feel the same if that was your family being held?

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 12:01 pm

I totally agree that it would just condone the behaviour & probably make it more dangerous for all Brits travelling abroad. Had our government paid for these 2 to be released then you could be pretty sure that at the top of every kidnappers wish list would be "One or more British!"
I'd still feel exactly the same if it was a member of my family. Though I'd want my family member back, the government paying their ransom would only put the rest of my family (and other families) in even greater danger when travelling abroad.

Anyway, if it was my family they'd not even bother calling me to pay a ransom. They know I'm broke and they know I'm really bad with money & saving..... Dunno

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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 12:26 pm

So do you think the government should have prevented the family paying the ransom?

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 12:50 pm

Not at all. I think the government did pretty much the only thing they could.
Families sometimes pay ransoms & sometimes don't. It's a risk the kidnappers take and they know that not all families will pay a ransom no matter where they are from.

Governments don't pay ransoms, period. As that's the case there is no point targeting specific people based purely on which government they are covered by.

The family paying the ransom won't change the mindset of kidnappers, so let them pay if they want to & can Dunno

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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 1:09 pm

But surely that group of pirates is now going to go take another hostage, how has that helped anyone? Surely that family has now just made the worlds oceans a lot more dangerous.

Did you know that there are currently 500 people being held to ransom by Somali Pirates??

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 1:52 pm

But that group of pirates would've more than likely taken another hostage whether they got the ransom or not, so nothing has changed. They're still grabbing people by chance with just the "Hope" that they'll get the requested ransom rather than the knowledge that the government "Will" pay it......

500 people! Shocked Well, not really that surprising. I'm sure there are at least that many being held hostage in South America somewhere. But to say they had 502 & have only been paid for 2 shows that they're playing a game of chance.......

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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 1:59 pm

I guess the real question should be what are the Somali government doing about it? If anyone has a responsibility to solve this situation it must lie with them.

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 2:04 pm

Shocked Shocked There's a Somali Government?? Shocked Shocked

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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 2:06 pm

Embarassed Oh, is this another of those times I should have researched an opinion before voicing it Laughing

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 2:09 pm

lol lol Honestly I don't know. I just didn't think there was a Somali government Dunno

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Post by Frog on 15th November 2010, 2:16 pm

http://www.somaligovernment.org/ Frog

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Post by Bones on 15th November 2010, 2:23 pm

Well, I'll be a Skeleton's Body warmer Shocked

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Post by Jobless Oddball on 20th November 2010, 4:33 pm

What is the exchange rate for pieces of eight these days?
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Post by munchkin on 21st November 2010, 5:48 am

Jobless Oddball wrote:What is the exchange rate for pieces of eight these days?



Dunno ......... Dunno
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 21st November 2010, 2:57 pm

munchkin wrote: Dunno ......... Dunno

thanks for the prompt answer! Rolling Eyes
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Post by Frog on 22nd November 2010, 12:19 am

We don't exactly specialise in economics here mate, you are on the internet though maybe you could do your own research.

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Post by Bones on 22nd November 2010, 7:18 am

Jobless Oddball wrote:What is the exchange rate for pieces of eight these days?

Well, £500,000 seems to be worth 2 so I'd say £250,000 = 1 Dunno

So.....Errrr..... You going on holiday there JO? Suspect Maybeeeee investing in a time share..... Hmmm?? Suspect Maybe.... looking to purchase some property? Suspect With an Ocean view Hmmm? Maybe? Suspect

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Post by munchkin on 22nd November 2010, 8:02 pm

Bones wrote:
Jobless Oddball wrote:What is the exchange rate for pieces of eight these days?

Well, £500,000 seems to be worth 2 so I'd say £250,000 = 1 Dunno

So.....Errrr..... You going on holiday there JO? Suspect Maybeeeee investing in a time share..... Hmmm?? Suspect Maybe.... looking to purchase some property? Suspect With an Ocean view Hmmm? Maybe? Suspect


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Post by Jobless Oddball on 22nd November 2010, 8:58 pm

Bones wrote:So.....Errrr..... You going on holiday there JO? Suspect Maybeeeee investing in a time share..... Hmmm?? Suspect Maybe.... looking to purchase some property? Suspect With an Ocean view Hmmm? Maybe? Suspect

Nah................as I would have to sell my property in Florida first! lol
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Post by Bones on 23rd November 2010, 7:22 am

You mean you can't afford a property in Florida as well as a Somali time share?? Shocked Tut tut tut tut. And there was me thinking you lived the high life. Ah well, we live and learn eh Wink

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Post by Jobless Oddball on 23rd November 2010, 8:08 pm

Bones wrote:You mean you can't afford a property in Florida as well as a Somali time share?? Shocked Tut tut tut tut. And there was me thinking you lived the high life. Ah well, we live and learn eh Wink

well easyjet don't go to Mogadishu lol
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Post by Bones on 24th November 2010, 8:28 am

EasyJet?? Suspect I starting to think that you don't own any property anywhere...... Sounds as if you couldn't even afford a piece of eight........

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Post by Jobless Oddball on 27th November 2010, 8:09 am

Bones wrote:EasyJet?? Suspect I starting to think that you don't own any property anywhere...... Sounds as if you couldn't even afford a piece of eight........

well I don't have a mortgage! Waving
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Post by Bones on 27th November 2010, 10:01 am

Jobless Oddball wrote:well I don't have a mortgage! Waving

Ah. Council house, right? LP

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Post by Jobless Oddball on 27th November 2010, 11:05 am

Bones wrote:Ah. Council house, right? LP

Bedsit paid for by your taxes Waving
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