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Post by El_Guapo on 23rd August 2010, 6:41 pm

Electronic Arts are coming under fire (excuse the pun lol) over their hotly anticipated new instalment of the Medal of Honour franchise.

In this highly realistic game players are sent to an imaginary conflict in Afghanistan where they play the part of either a British or Taliban soldier.

Government ministers have slammed the game and called for a ban on the grounds of it being insensitive to the grieving families of dead soldiers currently fighting in the Middle East.

Electronic Arts have defended their position saying that the game aims to simulate any real life conflict in which there are always two sides.

What do you think? Should the game be banned? Is it right to use current events such as this as a means of "entertainment"?

Below is a clip of the game so you can see what all the fuss is about. Note the very high level of detail and realism.

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Post by Frog on 23rd August 2010, 8:25 pm

That looks amazing! Such detail, it really looks like a lot of fun.

As for whether it's insensitive, you could argue that about a lot of games. Call of duty could be argued to rekindle the old Britain v Germany bad feeling. In fact as I recall in the game army of two you are attacked by suicide bombers in Afgahnistan. Frankly who cares where the fight is supposed to be? I never think about the nationality of the enemy or the nationality that I'm supposed to be playing for. It's just a bit of escapism, shooting and killing what could be anyone Twisted Evil Can't wait to play this one Drool

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Post by El_Guapo on 23rd August 2010, 11:29 pm

I'm in two minds about it. Sure the game looks fantastic and lots of fun but the subject matter would leave a bad taste in my mouth.

I think subject matter is important and developers need to consider the feelings of the market they target their product towards. I think this game would be just as successful and just as much fun if it were set somewhere else with a slightly different storyline. E.g. Call of Duty manages to depict modern day warfare without specific references to current conflicts so why choose this particular setting with this particular story and such clear references to what we see in the news?

If no subject matter is taboo where do we draw the line? Would games depicting WW2 in which yoy play a Nazi officer leading Jews to the Gas Chamber be acceptable? Or perhaps maybe a game where you play a Rwandan rebel raping women and beheading little children? Or even a game where you play an ethnic cleansing Russian in Chechnya?

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Post by Frog on 23rd August 2010, 11:53 pm

I see what you mean but in the last call of duty there was a scene where you mow down a group of innocent holiday makers in an airport!

Developers should consider these issues when choosing the subject matter because people just love to get all offended by stuff that they probably wont even buy. I just mean that for me the factions concerned are completely irrelevant, I want great graphics and great gameplay, if the sales are boosted by using a controversial subject then so be it.

Just have a look at the GTA series, you play a criminal and complete the game by killing innocent people and police officers, stealing cars, robbing banks etc. Could you not argue that at least this is bringing a current news story to the forefront of young peoples minds? If the subject is displayed accurately you could almost call it interactive news

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Post by El_Guapo on 24th August 2010, 12:08 am

LP wrote:I see what you mean but in the last call of duty there was a scene where you mow down a group of innocent holiday makers in an airport!

Developers should consider these issues when choosing the subject matter because people just love to get all offended by stuff that they probably wont even buy. I just mean that for me the factions concerned are completely irrelevant, I want great graphics and great gameplay, if the sales are boosted by using a controversial subject then so be it.

Just have a look at the GTA series, you play a criminal and complete the game by killing innocent people and police officers, stealing cars, robbing banks etc. Could you not argue that at least this is bringing a current news story to the forefront of young peoples minds? If the subject is displayed accurately you could almost call it interactive news

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The entire stage which you refer to in Call of Duty was optional though wasn't it? And if you did choose to play it then on top of this the player also had the option to complete the level without shooting any innocents.

I kind of agree with what you're saying though. I don't really care about the setting either. For me I just want to play with up to date weapons in a simulated modern day situation. My favourite all time games are the Rainbox Six ones where you play a Counter Terrorism Op. I still have a theory that if they sent all SWAT teams out as stoned as I am when I play these games these terrorists wouldn't have a chance Stoned

I can't help but think the subject of this is just still too....raw. Almost every day we see reports of a soldier killed in an explosion in Afghanistan. Can you hoestly tell me you can watch such a report on the news tomorrow evening and then still boot up the old Xbox to recreate the scene without feeling any tinge of guilt at taking pleasure from it?

GTA IV is a different ball game. When you tell me you've broken into a car showroom, shot the owner in the head with an Uzi, before stealing a lamboghini, and then mowing down 50 pedestrians, before then shooting a police chopper out of the sky with a bazooka...then and only then can you bring that game in to the argument lol
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Post by Frog on 24th August 2010, 12:26 am

Yes that stage in COD was optional and so is buying a game full stop Dunno If it makes you uneasy then just don't get it. I don't know that it would bother me but like I said I really only pay attention to objective in hand, I often skip cut scenes. If it's really true to the real conflict then I wouldn't mind getting an insight into what's going on out there, if not then I don't need to feel bad about it because it's just a game.

Counter-terrorism ops are great fun, stealth followed by frenzied killing always works for me but why aren't we allowed to play the terrorist? Seems a little one-sided don't you think?

As for GTA, I regularly see news reports of the sort of things you an do in that game, remember Roal Moat? I still frikkin love it though

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Post by El_Guapo on 24th August 2010, 12:46 am

I'll probably wait till I can get it second hard.

I can then shut my conscience up with the argument of "well, at least I didn't buy it new...." lol

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Post by Frog on 24th August 2010, 12:22 pm

Laughing But you still want to try it don't you Laughing

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Post by Bones on 24th August 2010, 12:46 pm

Don't see what all the fuss is about. It's a game Dunno

If anything is wrong it's not the game, it's the war itself. I've never really been into war games but I'll give this a look. I like that it may well show both sides of the story.

And I don't think I'd feel any guilt at booting it up after seeing a report of a soldier killed on the news. Sounds insensitive but one thing which is certain in a war are fatalities......... on both sides......

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Post by Jobless Oddball on 29th August 2010, 11:18 am

Can't people tell the difference between real life and fantasy?
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Post by munchkin on 30th August 2010, 7:13 am

there was a big hoo ha when the first resistance game came out.....resistance fall of man has a level where you have to fight yourself out of manchester cathedral.........the bible bashers were out in force saying it desecrates their shit........duh its a game you dullards.....and since when was manchester cathedral subdjugated to any sort off offending laws......its just something for the doom mongers to have a bash about......anything that doesnt suit their agenda is against their law.........if my bro had been killed in afghanistan and this game came out.....i would still play it.......all the millions killed in ww1 & 2 and no-one harps on about the games dedicated to those conflicts........go bother someone else you doom mongers....
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 30th August 2010, 7:42 am

I remember when there was a big hoo ha about the board game Bombshell!
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Post by munchkin on 30th August 2010, 9:15 am

i remember the exorcist being banned for 25 years .....lol......the lunatics are running the asylum.
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 30th August 2010, 9:39 am

munchkin wrote:i remember the exorcist being banned for 25 years .....lol......the lunatics are running the asylum.

and that Clockwork Orange shit!
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Post by munchkin on 30th August 2010, 9:42 am

clockwork orange wasnt banned by the censors.....it was kubrick himself that self banned it......why he done it...i have no idea.....but its a famous film....everyones heard of it....how many have seen it ?....dunno...i watched it and thought it was tedious tbh
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 30th August 2010, 12:17 pm

munchkin wrote:clockwork orange wasnt banned by the censors.....it was kubrick himself that self banned it......why he done it...i have no idea.....but its a famous film....everyones heard of it....how many have seen it ?....dunno...i watched it and thought it was tedious tbh

Coz he got death threats and shit himself
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Post by munchkin on 30th August 2010, 2:41 pm

Jobless Oddball wrote:
munchkin wrote:clockwork orange wasnt banned by the censors.....it was kubrick himself that self banned it......why he done it...i have no idea.....but its a famous film....everyones heard of it....how many have seen it ?....dunno...i watched it and thought it was tedious tbh

Coz he got death threats and shit himself


thats interesting......kubrick got death threats for making a film about the futility of violence...hmmmm there really are some weird cats out there.
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 30th August 2010, 3:01 pm

munchkin wrote:...hmmmm there really are some weird cats out there.
Have you only just realised?
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Post by munchkin on 30th August 2010, 3:05 pm

Jobless Oddball wrote:
munchkin wrote:...hmmmm there really are some weird cats out there.
Have you only just realised?



no ive known it most of my life.
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Post by El_Guapo on 25th September 2010, 7:48 pm

Clockwork Orange? Absolutely fantastic brilliant awesome film!! Love it!!

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Post by munchkin on 26th September 2010, 8:27 am

El_Guapo wrote:Clockwork Orange? Absolutely fantastic brilliant awesome film!! Love it!!




i watched it once years ago,i didnt find it to be anything special i think it was malcolm mcdowell or something like that in it.
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Post by Jobless Oddball on 4th November 2010, 10:02 pm

El_Guapo wrote:Clockwork Orange? Absolutely fantastic brilliant awesome film!! Love it!!


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